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Willow背包框架首次徒步使用体验

I took my willow pack frame on its first visit to the woods. Some misadventure, but overall a fun trip.

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楼主带着Willow pack frame首次进山，原计划走Little Bald Hills trail，但因健康问题体力不支，只走了25%就折返，转而附近分散露营。楼主说装备拼凑、不够轻量，背包表现很好，但需要调整，顶部要更贴近身体。楼主还问有没有零预算减重建议。

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去年我尝试了Smith River Recreation Area（史密斯河休闲区）的Little Bald Hills（小秃山）步道。我到达了背包露营地，却发现网上看到的水源已经没有了。所以我徒步下山，那天大约走了10英里，直上直下这座山。 我想一雪前耻，因为这条步道/营地真的很棒，而且我想在山顶周围徒步。 所以我决定尝试背一些水进去，剧透预警，这并不顺利。我的装备是拼凑起来的，而且不是特别轻，所以我已经处于劣势了。于是我开始了步道，这很难，我喘不过气来，全身出汗，每100英尺就要休息一下。我今年有一些健康问题，我没有想到我可能不再有去年的能力水平了。 我走到了步道的25%到达营地，我不得不折返。我完全精疲力尽了，而且我还没有到真正陡峭的部分。当我回到停车场时，我大声说“哦，感谢GOB。 我决定转向，寻找附近的一些分散露营。找到了一个不错的地方，当然是在一个陡峭的山坡上，我总是这样。我扎营，然后像石头一样倒下了。第二天我徒步周围并采集了一些越橘！它们和肉棒搭配得非常好。 背包工作得很好，我需要做一些调整，背包的顶部需要更贴近我的身体，但它表现得非常好，我对它非常满意。为灵活性和越橘干杯！ 附言：如果有人有零预算减重的建议，我很想听听。
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Last year I attempted the Little Bald Hills trail in the Smith River Recreation Area. I made it to the backpacking camp site to find the water source that I read about online was no more. So I hiked back down, about 10 miles that day straight up and straight down the mountain. I wanted to redeem myself because the trail/camp is really nifty, and I wanted to hike around on the top. So I decided to try to pack in some water, spoiler alert, this did not go well. My gear is cobbled together, and not terribly lightweight so I was already at a disadvantage there. So I start up the trail, it’s difficult, I can’t catch my breath, full body sweats and I’m taking breaks every 100 feet. I’ve had some health issues this year, and it didn’t occur to me that I might not be at the same ability level as last year. I made it 25% of the trail to the camp, and I just had to turn back. I was completely spent, and I wasn’t even to the really steep part yet. When I got back to the parking area I said out loud “oh thank GOB. I decided to pivot and find some nearby dispersed camping. Found a sweet spot, up a steep hill of course, I’m always doing that. I set up camp, and dropped like a stone. The next day I hiked around and foraged some huckleberries! They go really well with meat stick. The pack worked very well, I need to make some adjustments, the top of the pack needs to be closer to my body, but it performs really well, I’m super happy with it. Here’s to flexibility and huckleberries! Ps: if anyone has any suggestions for cutting weight on a zero budget I’d love to hear about it.

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按 Reddit 默认排序的前 8 条，翻译时的快照；不含点赞数

评论区观点评论区主要围绕零预算减重展开：u/Jolly-Slow1164 建议少带东西、用一次性水瓶、DIY凉鞋等；u/schwab002 和 u/CheapEbb2083 建议削薄木框架或改用竹子来减重，u/Niall0h 表示会尝试并感谢建议。

  • u/Jolly-Slow1164原评论
    u/Jolly-Slow1164：$0预算来减轻背包重量是个难题。我涉足超轻领域（你提醒了我想尝试那种打包方式，不带框架），我有一些想法。我将发布我的预算UL lighter pack以便参考 https://lighterpack.com/r/yh3kic • 首先，你可能只是带了额外的东西。比较你带的东西和我的lighterpack，那就是你所需要的。最轻的物品是你没有带的。最重的物品是你不需要的。Ppl • 另一个廉价的UL思路，你可能可以用真正的垃圾替换一些重型装备。你似乎已经掌握了第一个技巧，那就是几乎任何一次性1L瓶子都比大多数“运动”瓶子轻。所有时尚的孩子都用smart water瓶子，但无所谓...哦，这提醒了我，你可以把水瓶挂在肩带上，这有助于重量分布：https://www.ula-equipment.com/product/water-bottle-holders/ 观看页面下方的视频。 • 类似地，有很多DIY超轻营地凉鞋的想法，基本上使用免费垃圾作为鞋底。也许试试使用旧鞋垫 • 为了节省重量，你可以...
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    $0 budget to reduce pack weight is a hard one. I dable in the ultralight neighborhood (and you've reminded me that I want to try packing like that, minus the frame) and I have some thoughts. I'm going to post my budget UL lighter pack so I can reference it https://lighterpack.com/r/yh3kic • For starters, you're probably just taking extra stuff. Compare how much you're taking to my lighterpack, that's all you need. The lightest item is the one you don't take. The heaviest item is the one you don't need. Ppl • Another cheap UL thought process, you may be able to replace some heavy gear with literal trash. You seem to have picked up on the first tip which is that pretty much any disposable 1L bottle will be lighter than most "sports" bottles. All the trendy kids use the smart water bottles but it's whatever... Oh that reminds me you could hang your water bottles from your shoulder straps, which helps with weight distribution: https://www.ula-equipment.com/product/water-bottle-holders/ watch the video further down the page. • similarly there are a ton to diy ultralight camp sandal ideas that basically use free junk as the sole. Maybe try using an old insole • To save weight you could go stoveless. I doubt you're in a place where you can have open fires, but You can just take ready to eat foods like salami, cheese, crackers, tortilla, pita, PB&J... One of my favorites is pepperoni and cheese stick on a pita. You can also cold soak in something like a peanut butter jar, or a takeout soup container. Honestly a lot of cold soaked food is pretty gross, but there are some decent overnight oats type recipes that are OK, I also like the instant mashed potatoes. One good recipe is Mix together 1 pouch of instant mashed potatoes, and one of the smaller pouches of tuna or chicken, then add one packet of mustard, and 1 packed of mayo, and it tastes like you're at a potluck and you've mixed the potatoe salad and tuna salad together (or just use BBQ sauce instead, that's what I prefer) • your tent is probably your heaviest item, and I suspect you don't want to replace it with a tarp, or you already would have. Could you modify your tent for fast fly setup? Some tents that weren't designed for it can still be modified for it. Then you could only take the poles and fly, and your existing ground sheet. You could make a bugnet from tule look to the lighterpack for inspiration. If you reduce the bulk of your tent, and can fit it inside your pack that will also help with weight distribution. • cheap sleeping bags are heavy, this time of year you may still be able to get away with a fleece blanket or 2. That's about all I've got for little to no budget, but UL doesn't have to be super expensive. Though budget UL does take some DIY and requires some concessions.
  • u/Niall0h原评论
    u/Niall0h：哇，谢谢所有这些提示！我有一个Big Agnes帐篷和睡袋，一直在考虑留下雨篷，把防水布架在上面，但我对此感到不安。几年前当我更强壮的时候，我用商业背包和两个防水布徒步，一个用于吊床，一个用于A型架。我一生中最好的睡眠。我可以放弃我打包所有东西的防水袋，但我喜欢把我的食物和东西放在里面作为熊袋。我会继续削减，谢谢你的所有建议！
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    Wow thank you for all these tips! I have a big Agnes tent and sleeping bag, been toying with leaving the rainfly and rigging the tarp over, but I feel insecure about it. Several years ago when I was stronger, I hiked with a commercial pack and two tarps, one for a hammock and one for an a frame. Best sleep of my entire life. I could forgo the waterproof bag I pack everything in, but I like to put my food and stuff in there as a bear bag. I’ll keep whittling it down, thank you for all your suggestions!
  • u/schwab002原评论
    u/schwab002：说到削减，你的框架看起来相当坚固；也许你可以通过削薄那个木框架来真正削掉一些克数。
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    Speaking of whittling, your frame looks quite strong; maybe you could literally whittle some grams away by thinning out that wooden frame.
  • u/Niall0h原评论
    u/Niall0h：也许吧，它肯定比我原来用杜松做的框架小。它还没有干，我想过一段时间它会变轻。这是个很棒的建议！
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    Perhaps, it’s definitely smaller wood than my original frame made of juniper. It’s also not dry yet, I figure it’ll lighten up after awhile. That’s a rad suggestion!
  • u/CheapEbb2083原评论
    u/CheapEbb2083：你能弄到竹子吗？我怀疑把你的框架换成竹子的可以节省很多重量。它非常坚固，年轻的窄直径竹子应该足够了，我想。
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    Do you have access to bamboo? I suspect swapping out your frame for a bamboo one could save a lot of weight. It's incredibly strong and young narrow diameter bamboo should be sufficient I'd think.
  • u/Niall0h原评论
    u/Niall0h：这是个好建议，这附近肯定有竹子。
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    That’s a great suggestion, there’s gotta be some bamboo around here somewhere.
  • u/schwab002原评论
    u/schwab002：是的，我喜欢这个主意胜过我的削木主意。
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    yeah I like that idea more than my whittling idea.
  • u/Niall0h原评论
    u/Niall0h：削木是有效的 😉
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    Whittling is valid 😉